I have a Question - What does it mean to make it big in Porn

[champ1]

Johnwill, I have also wondered that same thing. I keep hearing these weird things about some of the models and I know you should not stereotype. But, how did Elmo get himself in trouble stealing where he should have been doing well in porn?? I have seen him in lot of videos lately, (within the past year). He should have been doing okay financially. I have heard Diesel Washington say that he could make a few $thousands with one scene. Maybe he is telling the truth or not; I don't know. One thing I do know is that the guys should make sure they have something to fall back on in life, especially, once they have gone beyond 25 or so. Most of these guys start at the age of 18 or 19. One last thought, you mentioned some of the stars in porn such as Jovonnie, Cityboy, Breion, Rock, etc., I too wonder what kind of income did they make last year???? Just Curious

[Iverson3]

Johnwill45 andChamp1,

If I were to do some research into the realistics points that you both made, Castro/Supreme would be one model that I would use as one of my participants to find out how much does a successful porn model make throughout his career (from start to decline), and what determines porn success. I know that he is no longer with Cocodorm/Flavaworks and he is older now, but he did have a hott career. He still may be doing some porn stuff, I do not know. Sometimes a model has to move on from one porn company to another in order to restart or enrich their careers. If I were to conduct a research study on the male porn industry , Castro/Supreme and other former and presently successfully models (including some who did not fair so well) would be interviewed during the investigation. I would not leave no stone unturned until I have enough factual information that I deem ready enough to deliver to the public. Of course, I would use the utmost integrity and respect while gathering the appropriate information.

The purpose of the research study would be to help satisfy the curiosity of those who are are unfamiliar with the goings on in the male porn industry,

to help squash some of the stereotypes pertaining to the industry,

to reveal thruths about what makes porn hot and how one may prepare for its career path,

to shed light on the current and former pitfalls of porn modeling,

to review the importance of seeking an education (equivalence of a high school diploma, college, university, trade school...) while doing porn,

to visit all types of relationships that are important to models while doing porn,

and to gain an understanding of the significance of compentancy (skill or know-how) of the business and professional end of the industry...including the financial aspect,

Of course, I must stress that confidientiality is a must. So those who participate in the study would have to take on ficticious names...all the way around. As a matter of, secrecy is a must. I would only be looking for the information. The source of the information would remain private. Johnwill45, we don't have a reseach study or at least a current one that would satisfy your questions...so I hope Support may provide you with at least some answers to them:!:

-Iverson3

[johnwill45]

What happened to my original question? - Why was it lost or removed?

[Cloudsb4storm]

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE THEY ARE FULL OF IT. TAKING DOWN COMMENTS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. DEFLECTION!!!!
THEY TOOK DOWN MINE THAT I POSTED EARLIER AND THEY MAY TAKE THIS 1 DOWN AS WELL.
THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. FULL OF LIES AND GIVE PLENTY OF DEFLECTION. TO GET YOU OFF THE THEIR ASS. SO THEY TRY TO GIVE YOU TREATS TO STOP THE COMMENTS AND COMPLAINTS.

DEFLECTION, DEFLECTION, DEFLECTION NOTHING BUT DEFLECTION.

[Iverson3]

Johnwill45, I made a copy of my response to you and Chad23's forum post. I'll check to see if I copied your initial comment. I would send it again. My response was primarily triggered by your post. It was all good...you asked questions. You were not out of line what-so-ever. I hope you send it again.

-Iverson3

[elmocarter]

Do yall fucking realize that yall pay this man every month or when ever yall pay just to go against him or to complain ..how stupid can yall be..that like going to a music artist concert that you dont like just to boo him or her..sound retarded right,,well that exactly what the fuck yall doing..pointless .he have the power to take down your posting.then yall get mad..while he laughing all the way to the bank..i never did understand some of members..lmao

[upfront]

i agree they need to stop complaining.....lol.....the nerve of these "paying" members to come in here "a forum" and ask questions or vent their frustrations or concerns especially about things that support themselves have said would happen. It's just beyond me that they would do so.

It's amuses me how "some" dorm dudes and former dorm dudes always try to flip the script on the members as if we never saw/heard them on cam or in the chatroom complaining about some aspect of the dorm. "i'm ready to go home" "i don't like it here" "its' not what i thought it would be" "these queens make me sick" "ewww he don't bath right" "damn i was suppose to get paid today i hope he pays me" "broke can you send me a tip" "damn there's no tissue here" etc etc etc etc. LMAO what's the difference?

Laughing all the way to the bank.....lol.... he probably is it's a business that's what you are trying to do make money but "are you kidding" it's not just because of the members. Question do the current/former dorm dudes get royalities off of dvds that are made and sold? Do you get a percentage everytime one of your dvds are purchased? If dorm dudes weren't offered a lifetime membership how many of them do you think would even be here to actually witness the "complaining?"

It's funny how you come here and "LYAO" about the members when you actually have nothing to laugh at unless you're laughing at us to keep from laughing at yourself. Yeah members may complain about certain things...we may even bitch if that's what you want to call it.....we express ourselves...... some more than others..... but we're "paying" members so that comes along with the package but at any given time if i or any other "paying member" want to stop being a part of him "laughing all the way to the bank" we can do so it's called "cancellation" .....so i/we the members have a choice let me see you or any other dorm dude cancel distribution of those scheduled shows, late night shows or dvds....so you can call the members stupid...retarded......tell them to shut up...... or any other belittling words that you can come up with but at the end of it all .........every member of this site can cancel tomorrow and he will still be "laughing all the way to the bank" but it won't be at the members expense......now that is reason to LMAO.....

In closing i still want to know what "I have a Question" have to do with complaining.

[Cloudsb4storm]

NOW THE 1 THING YOU DON'T WANT TO START MS ELMO CARTER IS A WAR ABOUT WHO DID WHAT CAUSE TO BE ALL HONEST YOU WAS NOT ALL THAT WHILE YOU WAS THERE. AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS OURSELVES. AND JUST LIKE YOU MS CATER IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT WE SAY THEN HIT THE BRICKS AS WELL. IT IS CRAZY HOW SOME OF THESE MODELS GET SO GRAND AND THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL THAT. THAT IS WATS IS FUNNY.

[Cloudsb4storm]

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO JOHNWILL45 IT IS SAD THAT YOU ASKED A QUESTION AND MS DEFLECTION STEPPED IN AND THE SUBJECT CHANGE. WELL LETS ASK MS HIGH FASHION HIGH DOLLAR MS WHO COMPLAIN A HELL OF A LOT WHILE SHE WAS IN THE DORM. LET'S ASK HER THOSE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED. YES I'M TALKING ABOUT MS ELMO CARTER. SEE ONE THING ABOUT I KILL THE MESSENGER!!!! SINCE SHE DECIDE TO STEP INTO THIS ARENA. LETS ASK HOW DID SHE FAIR DID YOU GET THAT HOUSE ON THE HILL. WAS YA ABLE TO GET THAT CAR U ALWAYS WANTED WAS YOU ABLE TO PAY OFF THOSE STUDENT LOANS THAT YOU CLAM YOU N SCHOOL ABOUT?? DID YA LUV HAVING YA FACE POSTED IN EVERY YAHOO GROUP AND ON EVER FREE WEBSITE. CAN YA TELL US ABOUT YOUR 1040? HOW DID YA DO? WHAT DOES IT MEAN 2 YOU TO MAKE IT BIG IN PORN??

AND ONCE AGAIN UPFRONT YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD..... YOU ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT AND CORRECT....

[elmocarter]

lol "ms. elmo carter" talk to me like a man..dont have time for that fag talk..please yall crying bitches wont cancel if it would save yall life..if yall cancel yall wont have no life..and that funny..LOL "war" come on is that serious..am i hurting yall feeling..my bad..didnt mean to.lol "student loan"..show how much you know.."yahoo group" what the hell is that..show you have no life and you feed off us porn model and i fucking love it..continue to type behind yall lil computer and be the pathetic "paying member" like yall are..im done

[upfront]

Who said if the members cancel you wouldn't have a life or are you saying that yourself? I think the comment was "if" all the members were to cancel then he would still be "laughing all the way to the bank" and i made that comment because of all the footage he have of the dorm dudes .......past and present .........to make dvds off of.

As far as having no life i won't touch that one because you are here just like we are "whether" it be a paying member or a free membership ......so the pot can't call the kettle black. If it pains you so to read the members complaints .....may i ask why do you do it ....... if you have such an exciting life. And why would you love it that guys feed off of dorm guys you're not there so it's not you they're feeding off of.

As far as feelings being hurt they must be yours because you are the only one that come here resorting to name calling like bitches, retards, stupid, pathethic or whatever. Surely you don't think you are better than the rest because you have a lifetime membership do you? I'm just asking i don't know but just wondering what would make you speak that way unless you felt that way.

Someone mentioned "student loan" they were just given you the benefit that you were in college....since you are not at the dorm...... and if you don't know what a "yahoo group" is...........LMAO

[SUPPORT]

Can we all just get along? Please?? We removed the first post because your NEGATIVE and DEGRADING comments you left about a particular model (Don't remember, email us, and the terms of this forum call for no name calling), next, models and members need to not be at each other. If you can not respect one another, we do not want you part of this family and will cancel your account. RESPECT PEOPLE!! Its all about RESPECT!